Friday, August 23, 2019

When a nation is occupied by an enemy...

The Sunni extremists of the Islamic
State, have been working to erase
evidence of that diverse history since
they seized the ancient city on June 10,
2014
The more we see, the more it should become evident ...what is happening here.
When a nation is occupied by an enemy, the enemy normally destroys historic land marks, flags, and statues.
And when enemy infiltrators occupy the leadership positions in a nations city or state governments, monuments can be removed overnight with no debate or resistance.   People, those things are signs!   Not just words, but actions!

Woman Who Destroyed Durham Confederate Statue
Is A Pro-North Korea Marxist http://trib.al/gbmHyZ0
We are engaged in that Quiet War I've been harping about. They are accomplishing things that a victor accomplishes after conquering a nation, with absolutely zero resistance from us!  You can see it now. And who is driving it all?  The Media!
Things are very different with the Media since Trump became a real threat during the election. Trump embarrassed the Media and called them dishonest liars. That, combined with the fact that Trump was speaking in Nationalist America first terms, threw the Globalists at the CFR into a rage!
So they launched this psychological operation we are currently witnessing. Destroy Trump at all cost!
They called on all of their resources, including Soros groups, to mobilize and create chaos and disrupt society ( ex: blocking traffic)
Remember hearing that America will fall from within?
Well, these people are the enemy within.
Domestic enemies intentionally disrupting our peace, security, and economy. They may have citizenship, but they are not in favor of this nation. They are an on-call civilian mob/army.
The Media portrays these enemies as protestors, standing up against a racist, homophobic, illegal alien hating, welfare cutting, wall building, DEVIL Trump.
However, if we look at the protestors actions, they line up more closely to an occupying enemy force, instead of peaceful protestors!
Actions speak louder than words!
We better turn our attention toward this and see it for what it is!
Or we lose! ~  Ron Arnold



 

Thursday, August 22, 2019

Baltimore’s numbers are the worst in the United States on Crime and the Economy

Baltimore’s numbers are the worst in the United States on Crime and the Economy...  Now I wonder whose fault that may be? ~ Storm'n Norm'n


Question to Cummings: Where did the Billions in Missing Federal Money Go?
Why Trump was right to ask.
August 22, 2019 ~ Matthew Vadum

President Trump went after purported congressional watchdog Elijah Cummings recently, slamming the Democrat congressman for failing to improve his troubled Baltimore, Maryland, district despite the inflow of billions of dollars in federal aid during and in the years leading up to Trump’s administration.

Cummings came to the attention of conservatives as he zealously defended the IRS throughout the Lois Lerner saga. Lerner is the corrupt IRS tax-exempt division executive who engineered the tax agency’s targeting of conservative nonprofits during the Obama administration. Cummings also apparently conspired with Lerner to sabotage True the Vote, a leading grassroots electoral integrity group. In 2012, Cummings falsely claimed the group would “do almost anything to stop people from voting.”

“Baltimore’s numbers are the worst in the United States on Crime and the Economy. Billions of dollars have been pumped in over the years, but to no avail[,]” the president wrote on Twitter July 29. “The money was stolen or wasted. Ask Elijah Cummings where it went. He should investigate himself with his Oversight Committee!”

“Baltimore, under the leadership of Elijah Cummings, has the worst Crime Statistics in the Nation. 25 years of all talk, no action! So tired of listening to the same old Bull…Next, Reverend Al will show up to complain & protest. Nothing will get done for the people in need. Sad!” Trump tweeted.

Trump was responding to taunts by RINO Michael Steele, who used to run the Republican National Committee and was Maryland’s lieutenant governor from 2003 to 2007, Baltimore Mayor Bernard Young (D), and racial arsonist Al Sharpton, who accused the president of not spending enough federal money on Baltimore.

Two days before his tweets, Trump took Cummings to task on Twitter after the congressmen lobbed harsh criticisms about the conditions at the U.S.-Mexico border.

“Rep. Elijah Cummings has been a brutal bully, shouting and screaming at the great men & women of Border Patrol about conditions at the Southern Border, when actually his Baltimore district is FAR WORSE and more dangerous. His district is considered the Worst in the USA......” Trump tweeted.

“....As proven last week during a Congressional tour, the Border is clean, efficient & well run, just very crowded[,]” Trump added. “Cumming[s’] District is a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess. If he spent more time in Baltimore, maybe he could help clean up this very dangerous & filthy place[.]”

Naturally, Democrats in the media and the political establishment responded with indignation, defending the squalor of Baltimore, even though just a few years ago, they had admitted Charm City was in bad shape.

In 2015, presidential candidate Bernie Sanders blasted West Baltimore, likening it to a “Third World country.” The next year the socialist senator from Vermont lamented in a tweet: “Residents of Baltimore’s poorest boroughs have lifespans shorter than people living under dictatorship in North Korea. That is a disgrace.”

Lynne Patton, a regional administrator for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, defended Trump, saying that $16 billion in grants was directed to Cummings’s congressional district in 2018 alone.

 “I want to say this expressly to Mayor Young and Michael Steele and Al Sharpton, who today called out the president and said let President Trump put his money where his mouth is. Well, boys and girls, I have a message for you, President Trump has given $16 billion in 2018 alone to Elijah Cummings’s district in federal grants,” she said.

Newsweek verified that Cummings’s home turf, the 7th Congressional District, which includes portions of Maryland outside Baltimore, took in a little under $15.7 billion in grants and other funding from the U.S. government in fiscal 2018.

“We have given more money in homeless funds to Baltimore than the last administration. We have given more money in community development grants than the last administration to Baltimore. My question to you guys is this, what are you actually doing with the money so that it benefits residents in the community for once instead of deep-pocket crooked politicians?” Patton said.
Statistics paint a depressing picture of Baltimore.

Baltimore has the highest homicide rate among America’s 50 largest cities and the second-highest violent crime rate overall, according to FBI data released in September 2018. There were 342 homicides in Baltimore in 2017, which works out to 56 per 100,000 people residing in the city. On 24/7 Wall Street’s list of the most dangerous cities in the country, Baltimore ranked 3rd, behind 1st-place St. Louis, Missouri and 2nd-place Detroit, Michigan.

Baltimore’s economic data are nothing to brag about, either, according to a summary prepared by Fox Business.

The median home there is valued at $113,500. Home values have fallen 3.2 percent over the last year. Zillow expects they will tumble another 4.2 percent over the coming year. Census Bureau data show Baltimore had retail sales of $5,871 per capita in 2012, which was well below the national average of $13,443.

Baltimore’s unemployment rate in May was 5.1 percent, which is above Maryland’s state rate of 3.8 percent and the national average of 3.7 percent. Average household income in Baltimore was $46,641 in 2017, well below the average household income nationally of $57,652. The poverty rate in Baltimore is 22.4 percent, which is dramatically higher than the national average of 12.3 percent.
On WalletHub’s list of 150 best-run cities, Baltimore weighed in at the 129th spot in terms of city leadership.
The evidence suggests Trump was right on the money, as usual. Local Democrat leaders in Baltimore, especially Elijah Cummings, have some explaining to do.

About Matthew Vadum
Matthew Vadum, formerly senior vice president at the investigative think tank Capital Research Center, is an award-winning investigative reporter and author of the book, "Subversion Inc.: How Obama’s ACORN Red Shirts Are Still Terrorizing and Ripping Off American Taxpayers."

Friday, June 21, 2019

Conspiracy, Theory, Conspiracy Theory, Opinion, or Fact

What is it?
by Norman E. Hooben

 I have often been accused of what is generally referred to as a, conspiracy theory in both written and oral presentations.  When you pair those two words it hints of something not proven, or worse yet, a lie and to a lesser degree, just an opinion.
A few months ago I had written about Hillary Clinton and John Kerry’s role in the influx of migrants crossing our southern border.  Both were Secretary of State at different times (one preceding the other) before the onslaught of caravans coming from Central America and traversing the entire country of Mexico in order to enter the United States illegally.  They were instruments in the plan; a plan to destroy our republic form of government.  Over the years since 1994 or earlier I expressed some thoughts of previous and current participants in the plan…including such names as Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, John Dewy, Saul Alinsky, Jimmy Carter, Ted Kennedy, Hillary and Bill Clinton, John Murtha, George Herbert Walker Bush, John Kerry, Barack Obama, James Clapper, Peter Strzok, John Brennan, Elizabeth Warren and a slew of others including the United Nations, the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR (Counsel on American Islamic Relations).
The conspiracy, and it is what it is, is a conglomerate of like-minded people stemming all the way back to the Illuminati prior to the American Revolution who wish to control the populous, not only in a nation state but globally (thus, the New World Order).
Convincing others of the conspiracy is sometimes a difficult task especially if they identify themselves as Democrats for the Democratic leadership has had a stronghold on their members by mind manipulation for well over seventy-five (or more) years.

Although I’ve been political savvy for a number of years and considered to be well read concerning the struggles our nation is now confronting, it is still not sinking in to the mindset of many Americans and we continue to drift apart both mentally and politically.  So today I was going through my library of books trying to decide which ones to keep and which go to the recycle bin.  And there on the inside flap of hard-cover publication written by someone with an academic pedigree greater than mine back in 2007; more proof of the plan. Aka the conspiracy!  It read:
 There is an intelligence war conducted behind the scenes, aimed at confusing, misleading, an ultimately defeating the enemy.  The goal is nothing less than toppling the regime in power.  A network of agents has been planted at key crossroads of power, stealing secrets, planting disinformation, and cooking intelligence.  The plan involves sophisticated political sabotage operations that bring in opposition forces who can challenge the regime openly, in a way the CIA cannot.  The scope is breathtaking.
Who is the target of this vast, sophisticated CIA operation?  Not the mullahs in Tehran or North Korea’s power-mad Kim Jong Il; the target is America’s president…
Author of above quote: Kenneth R. Zimmerman.
 
To deny that a conspiracy does not exist is tantamount to saying that none of the participants named above do not and/or did not exist; they all had a role to play.  You cannot reverse that which happened in real time simply by not believing...the truth is in the pudding!
_____________________________
 
"If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power." ~ President Dwight D. Eisenhower  (March 1956)
 
“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” ~ President Woodrow Wilson
_____________________________ 
 
Conspiracy ~ /kənˈspirəsē/
A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful;

Plot, scheme, stratagem, plan, machination, cabal, intrigue, palace intrigue; deception, ploy, trick, ruse, dodge, subterfuge, sharp practice

Theory ~ /ˈTHirē/
Noun: theory; plural noun: theories
A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
 
Conspiracy Theory ~
Noun: conspiracy theory; plural noun: conspiracy theories
A belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event; "they sought to account for the attacks in terms of a conspiracy theory"

Opinion ~ /əˈpinyən/
Noun: opinion; plural noun: opinions
A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Fact ~
Noun: fact; plural noun: facts
A thing that is known or proved to be true; the truth about events as opposed to interpretation.

Tuesday, June 18, 2019

Drain the swamp starting with...The Pope, the Clintons, Obama

THE OCCHIONERO CONSPIRACY: The Pope, the Clintons, Obama and an Italian President & Prime Minister Attempted a Coup Against Trump

“Report: Italy’s Communist Regime Conspired Against Trump and the American People” — Infowars

Ogate: A Communist Plot Orchestrated by the Democrats, the Vatican and the Previous Italian Government

The Millennium Report
Truly, the “Occhionero Conspiracy” to depose the POTUS is as big as it gets.
Which is exactly why such a profound assault on the American Republic took so long to come to light.  Deep State machinations of this gravity virtually never see the light of day.
You know it’s serious when the Vatican and Italian Government get involved. In other words, this desperate conspiracy to overthrow the POTUS even goes way beyond the unrelenting British attempts to subvert the Trump administration.
There is some crucial historical background to this brazen coup against the POTUS that will inform the reader about just how deep and broad this international conspiracy really is. As follows:

COUP-IN-PROGRESS: Pelosi, the Mafia and the Black Nobility


All Roads Lead To Rome

First, it’s of paramount importance to understand that the Roman Empire never ended.
In point of fact, the United States of America is merely the latest incarnation of the Roman Empire. Where the Roman Empire was the First Reich, the USA is the Fourth Reich. Please read the following article for further edification.

The USA: Military Arm Of The New World Order

Is Pax Americana imposed by the ‘Fourth Reich’?


With the essential understanding offered by the preceding link, it ought to be easy to comprehend who really runs the United States…and “No!” it’s not the British, although they have been the primary administrators of the U.S. CORPORATION for centuries. Bear in mind that there’s a HUGE difference between an administrator (a CEO and/or President) and the real supremo who really runs the whole place (the Chairman of the Board).
There is no question that both the Roman Catholic Papacy and Italian Government did NOT want Donald Trump to win the U.S. presidency. Pope Francis was quite expressive about his disdain for Trump…perhaps a first in papal history.  Popes are never so public in this manner but the globalists were super-desperate.
Likewise, the top leftist leaders of the Italian Government were similarly antagonistic to the prospect of a Trump presidency. Both globalist Prime Minister Matteo Renzi and ‘Democrat’ President Sergio Mattarella were dead set against Trump. However, it was really Matarella’s predecessor — Communist President Giorgio Napolitano — who was behind this Italian-American plot to bring down the POTUS.
The following account presents an insider’s view of what really went down in 2016 between the highest echelons of the Liberal Left in both the United States and Italy. It’s imperative that the reader understand that this attempted coup is one part of a much wider communist conspiracy to collapse the American Republic.

THE OCCHIONERO FILES: An Italian-American Conspiracy to Overthrow President Trump


The Italians, the British and the Israelis

What is quite stupefying about the many accusations thrown around by the Left against the Right is that it really was the Italians, the British and the Israelis who blatantly interfered in the 2016 election and/or throughout the aftermath, NOT THE RUSSIANS.
The Kremlin was fully aware of the many reckless and desperate attempts to fix the U.S. election and then to depose Trump, which surely discouraged Putin’s Russia from getting involved in any way; nevertheless, they have received all the blame for doing nothing.
Even Robert Mueller’s only press briefing on the matter was primarily concerned with laying blame on the Russians for Hillary Clinton’s epic defeat when, in truth, Moscow is the furthest from the crime scene, both literally and figuratively.
Of course, everyone knows by now just how much London was intimately involved in this seditious fiasco. Their obvious guilt should be seen as an outright attack on American democracy. See: It wasn’t Russia that tried to fix the 2016 U.S. presidential election, it was the British.
Very few have come to realize that the Brits have been at war with the American people since the Thirteen Colonies appeared to gain their independence. That very long and tortuous back story is now known as CROWNGATE: THE GREATEST CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY IN U.S. HISTORY.
Then there was Israel, which had a LOT to lose or gain by the outcome of the 2016 election. As a matter of historical fact, every Prime Minister of the Modern State of Israel since its founding has pointed out that whoever sits in the White House must be chosen by “the Chosen” in Tel Aviv. Without massive amounts of annual foreign aid, U.S. military support and diplomatic cover from the State Department, Israel would be in extremely serious trouble. Hence, it is Israel that has always worked the hardest to fix the POTUS selection every 4-year election cycle. See The Truth Finally Comes Out: Israel routinely intervenes in U.S. elections

Back to THE OCCHIONERO CONSPIRACY

What really happened here between the Deep State communists in both the USA and Italy can best be described as “absolute power corrupts absolutely”.
Leftist regimes have been stealthily installed throughout Europe over many years and Italy was no exception. However, in this specific context, an extraordinarily liberal pope was also elected—Pope Francis. This is where things went really wrong; for when the religious and governmental spheres are politically aligned in the same country the circumstances are conducive for an “Occhionero Conspiracy” to take place.
Here’s how one author delineated this unprecedented transatlantic scandal:

The story begins in January 2017 when Computer World wrote about alleged crimes committed by Italian Giulio Occhionero:
The Tuesday arrest of Giulio Occhionero and his sister, Francesca Maria, has brought to light what appears to be the biggest, and highest-profile, hacking of institutional and corporate accounts ever reported in Italy.
The siblings have been planting the Pyramid Eye remote access Trojan on computers using a spear-phishing technique over several years, according to the arrest order.
They attacked at least 18,000 high-profile targets, including former Prime Ministers Matteo Renzi and Mario Monti, President of European Central Bank Mario Draghi, as well as employees and heads of various ministries including Internal Affairs, Treasury, Finance and Education.
But Giulio Occhionero claimed that he and his sister, Francesca Maria, were set up. A piece reported by Frederico Punzi, writing in The Atlantico, notes their denials and more:
Occhionero complained to the Prosecutor of the Republic of Perugia and wrote to the U.S. Congress and the FBI. In fact, there are a number of contradictions and suspicious circumstances in the case.
Occhionero provided the letter that he claims he sent US Congress and the FBI:
Occhionero claims and it’s reported that:
Members of Italian intelligence were approached by Hillary Clinton, the Obama Administration, and the Deep State in order to frame Trump by PLANTING EVIDENCE on American servers to force Trump to step down from office.
In other words, members of Italian intelligence found a target in Occhionero, a Republican-sympathizer who had two servers for his company, Westland Securities, located in America. One was in Washington State, and the other in West Virginia.
The plan was for Italian Intelligence to hack into these servers, plant classified emails from Hillary’s servers inside these servers on American soil, and then alert the FBI.
The FBI would then raid these locations, “discover” these e-mails, investigate, link these servers to Trump…
And then force Trump to resign.
Occhionero believes that Obama and the former leader of Italy, Matteo Renzi, worked together on this plan and he provides reports of their meetings in Italy before the 2016 election and in early 2017.

Why Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi is Dining With Obama

Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi is joining Barack Obama for the last formal dinner of his presidency. Why?

Barack Obama Arrives in Milan for Climate Speech, Meeting with Former Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi

Former President Barack Obama touched down in Milan, Italy, on Monday, kicking off a two-day trip in which he will meet with former Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi and also discuss climate change at a conference.
Occhionero’s twitter account has numerous tweets related to this subject, including the fact that Robert Mueller from the Mueller report awarded one of the top spies in Italy the FBI Medal of Honor.
The Italian spy network had a close relationship with Joseph Mifsud, the individual who set up Trump Campaign volunteer George Papadopoulos in Rome and London.
Mifsud is well known as related to the Italian spy agencies and yet Mueller labeled Mifsud a ‘Russian’ in the Mueller report.
It’s also suspected that former FBI Agent Bill Priestap may have identified connections with Italy which are redacted in his testimony to Congress.
Source: The OCCHIONERO CONSPIRACY: How Obama and Renzi colluded to frame Trump using the innocent Giulio Occhionero

The Vatican Connection

What’s left out of the preceding investigative news report are the all-important Vatican connections. This is where the heart of the “Occhionero Conspiracy” gets very complicated and very convoluted.
What we do know from WikiLeaks is that Obama, Clinton and Soros were quite instrumental in terminating the arch-conservative Pope Benedict’s papacy and installing Argentinian Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio as the first Jesuit Pope in history. The Jesuits are by far the most liberal-leaning of all the Catholic denominations. Some might say that they even act like extreme left-wing militants at times, especially the proponents of the violent Liberation Theology in South America.

WikiLeaks: Clinton, Obama, Soros Overthrew Pope Benedict In Vatican Coup


What can be stated is that Pope Francis quite deliberately inserted himself into the U.S. electoral process during the 2016 election cycle.  His many indirect anti-Trump comments and inappropriate statements about American immigration policy crossed so many lines that it’s a wonder that he’s still the Pope.

KEY POINT: The Roman Catholic Church receives millions of dollars from the U.S. Federal Government for charity work concerning the housing, care and placement of illegal aliens.  The American bishops rely heavily on this revenue to run their bankrupt dioceses after so many multi-million dollar payouts for the unending child sexual abuse lawsuits that have plagued parishes across the USA.  Pope Francis has been a zealous promoter of illegal immigration for this reason and did not want to see a border-protecting POTUS in the White House. See: Catholic Church Receives Billions from the USA, Illegal Immigration Proves Very Profitable

Because of the public disrespect that Francis demonstrated toward candidate Trump, it can be asserted that the Vatican cultivated a favorable political environment throughout Rome for the liberal Italian leaders to make very bad decisions that were then acted upon.  After all, it was extremely rare that a sitting Pope would transparently interfere in a national election the way that Francis did.  His papal actions were as reprehensible as they were downright wrong.  Therefore, the Pontiff’s role in the “Occhionero Conspiracy” was quite clear in the way that he provided moral support for the whole dastardly operation to unfold.

OPERATION CHARLEMAGNE

A critical piece of this conspiracy, quite curiously, has also been memed as OPERATION CHARLEMAGNE. That’s how broad and deep the conspiracy runs through all of leftist Europe. Clearly, there was an understanding among all the globalist-controlled leaders throughout the European Union (EU) that Trump was going down. And, every globalist government was expected to pile on when the time was right.

OPERATION CHARLEMAGNE: The International Conspiracy to Overthrow the POTUS


Charlemagne, it should be pointed out, “was the first recognized emperor to rule from western Europe since the fall of the Western Roman Empire three centuries earlier”. “He was later canonized by Antipope Paschal III.” “He reached the height of his power in 800 A.D. when he was crowned “Emperor of the Romans” by Pope Leo III on Christmas Day at Rome’s Old St. Peter’s Basilica.”[1]
The key point about Charlemagne where it concerns Donald Trump is that he was considered the protector of the Christian nations of Europe, even being called Pater Europae—“Father of Europe”. Of course, times have changed considerably as the EU has since been transformed into the most godless place on the planet with successive liberal governments setting the pace. The EU leadership, especially, is notorious for being as godless as any other communist institution on Earth.

Conclusion

There is not only an epic war raging between the East (China) and the West (U.S.) today, there’s also a “War of the Titans” occurring on both sides of the Atlantic. The intensifying battles between the Right and the Left in each European nation have never been so fierce. Patriot movements and Nationalist parties are slowly working their way back into power. There’s not a single government on the Continent that is without its troubles due to the pervasive and profound protest by both sides.
Because of this heightening internal political dynamic, the political battles and economic wars are spilling across the borders. These internecine clashes in the EU, alone, were unheard of just a few years ago.
This is the current context of the “Occhionero Conspiracy”.  Hence, we can expect similar unparalleled episodes of transnational intrusion in the future. While these types of international incidents and intrigue have always taken place, what has changed is that the whole world is now privy to the graphic details of these covert government crime sprees.
Complex multi-nation conspiracies such as this are usually run like C.I.A. black ops. Each co-conspirator participates in a highly compartmentalized operation and on a strictly need-to-know basis. All parts of such a black operation are always treated with utmost confidentiality and uncompromising secrecy. In other words, every phase of the subversive scheme is executed in an ultra-classified manner.
When this is usually the case, how, pray tell, did the “Occhionero Conspiracy” end up on the front page of the Internet?

SHEER DESPERATION… that’s how!

Because of the sheer desperation of New World Order globalist cabal to prevent a Trump presidency.

The Millennium Report
June 3, 2019
Source
[1] Charlemagne
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Thursday, May 23, 2019

Today I went south of the border...the original border.

Today's Trivia (about the southern border of the United States of America)

Before there was a United States of America there were thirteen colonies which after the Revolutionary War became the first thirteen states of the Union...Alabama was not one of those original colonies.  Now driving north along U.S. highway 231 at the current state line where Alabama and Florida meet there is one of those historical markers one sees scattered all over this country.  I must have passed that marker a hundred times without ever looking at what it said...today I stopped!  (I probably should have said, "We stopped."  For I was with my friend Ron A. who actually pointed out the historical marker to me in the first place...gotta give credit where credit is due...thank you Ron.)




 
 
 
I hope you all enjoyed this bit of trivia. ~ Norm



Click here for On the border Part One

On the Border, Part II


This is the second installment of a two-part series on border disputes in Florida history. If you missed reading the first blog, click here to read it.
Last week, we looked at John Houston McIntosh, a borderland Floridian whose life reflected the tensions that sometimes cropped up along the Florida-Georgia border before Florida was a United States possession. Today, we look at an even more profound border conflict in Florida history, one that took almost a century to settle completely.
When the dust cleared after the American Revolution and the treaties were all signed, the newly created United States possessed the 13 former British colonies between Canada and the southern edge of Georgia. The Spanish obtained East and West Florida in a separate treaty with the British. That left just one problem: What was the legal boundary between Florida and Georgia? As the maps below demonstrate, it depended on who you asked.
Excerpt from Thomas Bowen's Map of North America (1780s). Florida Map Collection - State Library of Florida.
Excerpt from Thomas Bowen’s Map of North America (1780s). Florida Map Collection – State Library of Florida.
Excerpt from Joseph Purcell's map of the Southern states, plus Spanish East and West Florida (1792). Florida Map Collection - State Library of Florida.
Excerpt from Joseph Purcell’s map of the Southern states, plus Spanish East and West Florida (1792). Florida Map Collection – State Library of Florida.
Jean Baptiste d'Anville's "New and Complete Map of the West Indies" (1794). Florida Map Collection - State Library of Florida.
Jean Baptiste d’Anville’s “New and Complete Map of the West Indies” (1794). Florida Map Collection – State Library of Florida.
The mapmakers couldn’t agree, and neither could the statesmen. Considering how few people lived in the area at the time, it might not seem like such a big deal, but keep in mind that in those days the Florida-Georgia border was an international boundary line. Conflicts over the boundary continued between Spain and the United States, until finally the two countries agreed to settle their disputes by treaty. The Treaty of San Lorenzo, also sometimes called the Treaty of Madrid or Pinckney’s Treaty, stipulated that the two governments would appoint a joint commission to survey and mark the official border between Florida and Georgia.
Andrew Ellicott, a friend of Thomas Jefferson and a reputable surveyor and engineer, represented the U.S. on the commission. Captain Estevan Minor represented Spain. The two commissioners met at a point on the east bank of the Mississippi River below Natchez, where they were to begin their work. The Treaty of San Lorenzo called for the line to be surveyed out from the 31st parallel on the Mississippi east to the Chattahoochee River, down the Chattahoochee to its junction with the Flint River, then east to the source of the St. Marys River, then down the center of the St. Mary's River to the Atlantic Ocean.
Drawn portrait of Andrew Ellicott, who represented the United States on the joint commission tasked with surveying out the boundary line separating Spanish Florida from the United States (circa 1800s).
Drawn portrait of Andrew Ellicott, who represented the United States on the joint commission tasked with surveying out the boundary line separating Spanish Florida from the United States (circa 1800s).
 
Sounds simple enough, right? All the instructions were right there, nice and plain. Ellicott, Minor, and their assistants began their work in 1796 and continued surveying the line into the year 1800. When it was time to connect the line with the St. Mary's River, the commissioners explored several of the river’s forks and finally agreed upon a point that would be considered the river’s “source,” as the treaty directed. Here, the surveyors erected a large hill of soil, later called Ellicott’s Mound. They determined the latitude and longitude of this location and were thereby able to calculate the correct placement of a line between the mound and the intersection of the Chattahoochee and Flint Rivers, which would be the Florida-Georgia boundary.
Excerpt of a map from Andrew Ellicott's 1803 journal, showing the source of the St. Marys River (1803). The State Library of Florida holds an original printing of this journal.
Excerpt of a map from Andrew Ellicott’s journal, showing the source of the St. Marys River (1803). The State Library of Florida holds an original printing of this journal.
Ironically enough, the placement of this line never proved a sticking point between Spain and the U.S. The real fireworks began once Florida and Georgia were both U.S. possessions. One of the first orders of business after Florida became a U.S. territory in 1821 was for the federal government to survey Florida out into townships and sections so the land could be distributed to settlers and local governments. To do this, however, the government surveyors needed to know exactly where the line separating Florida and Georgia truly was. Consequently, the United States Surveyor General arranged for the boundary to be clarified.
Meanwhile, in Georgia, some officials were beginning to doubt whether Ellicott’s Mound was located at the true source of the St. Marys River. Captain William Cone, a resident of Camden County who was familiar with the area, said the source of the river was actually located about 20-30 miles to the south. The state of Georgia appointed a commission to study this issue, as well as a surveyor named J.C. Watson to run, survey, and mark the proper line. When Watson finished his work, his line was not as far south as what Captain Cone had called for, but his line still ended south of Ellicott’s Mound. Georgia stood to gain a great deal of new territory by these findings, and state officials quickly extended county boundaries and state surveys to include it.
After several more rounds of conflicting surveys, Florida officials filed a bill of complaint with the United States Supreme Court, which is constitutionally charged with settling interstate boundary disputes. The suit never reached a final hearing. The state governments of Florida and Georgia ultimately ended up deciding the matter themselves. In 1857, both states agreed to use Ellicott’s Mound as the turning point for the boundary on the St. Marys River. A subsequent joint survey team worked out a line that everyone agreed upon, and the whole package was recognized and confirmed by an act of Congress in 1872. This settlement affected a number of land titles, of course, and these associated matters were eventually decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1887.
Florida and Georgia still have their differences from time to time, as adjoining states often do, but the southern boundary between them has all but ceased to be a matter for comment. The legacy of this near century-long disagreement is, however, still highly visible on state maps. You’ll recall that the land north of the Watson Line was claimed by Georgia all through the process of settling the dispute. By the time the controversy was settled, the land lying between the Watson Line and the real Florida-Georgia border had in many cases been sold and resold so many times that to re-survey it all into the Florida land system would have been very tedious. So, as a result, there is a strip of land across the top of the Sunshine State that belongs to Florida, yet is organized according to Georgia’s system of land description, as this map shows:
An excerpt from a map of Madison County published by the Florida Department of Transportation. The Watson Line is highlighted in red. Notice that the land between this line and the Georgia is not divided into the same system of townships and sections as the land farther south. Florida Map Collection - State Library of Florida.
An excerpt from a map of Madison County published by the Florida Department of Transportation. The Watson Line is highlighted in red. Notice that the land between this line and the official Florida-Georgia line is not divided into the same system of townships and sections as the land farther south. Florida Map Collection – State Library of Florida.
Remember that the State Library & Archives is an excellent source of information on all aspects of our state’s political history – even the obscure bits. We encourage you to visit info.florida.gov and search our catalogs to find more about your favorite topic in Florida history!

Friday, March 15, 2019

If you're too poor to pack up and move away from New York, that's your own damn fault...you voted for him and his party.


As residents flee New York's high taxes, state uses intrusive audits to get cash from defectors
By Lukas Mikelionis | Fox News

New York State goes to extraordinary lengths to catch wealthy residents who try to flee its burdensome taxes, leaving a gaping hole in the state’s treasury.
The aggressive approach by state tax collectors comes as the Empire State faces a $2.3 billion budget deficit that even Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo called “as serious as a heart attack.”
Cuomo, a vocal critic of President Trump, blamed congressional Republicans for passing tax reforms that reduced the state and local tax deduction Americans can take on their annual income tax forms -- meaning residents of high-tax blue states like New York have been feeling the pinch, sparking their exodus.
“This is the flip side. Tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich,” Cuomo said last month. “We did. Now, God forbid, the rich leave.”
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But New York state auditors are doing their best to ensure that those fleeing the state’s high taxes will face difficulties, including being subjected to an audit -- likely to be followed by a massive tax bill.
New York conducted 3,000 “non-residency” audits between 2010 and 2017, recouping around $1 billion from the practice, CNBC reported.
Between 2015 and 2017, the auditors on average collected $144,270 per audit, with more than half of those who were audited losing their cases.
New York's success rate on audits can be attributed not only to the traditional methods of investigation like going through an individual’s credit card bills, but also to new high-tech tools that include tracking phone records, social media, and even veterinary and dentist records, according to the outlet.
Data show that between July 2017 and July 2018, the high-tax and Democrat-controlled states of New York and Illinois lost the most residents, with New York losing more than 48,000 residents, while Illinois’ population declined by more than 45,000, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.
It remains unclear how many top-tax-paying residents were part of the people who fled the states, but the data show that low-tax red states like Florida and Texas gained new residents.
“If you’re a high earner in New York and you move to Florida, your chances of a residency audit are 100 percent,” Barry Horowitz, a partner at the WithumSmith+Brown accounting firm, told CNBC. “New York has always been aggressive. But it’s getting worse.”
New York is also working extensively to catch those high-worth individuals who fake their move to Florida in a bid to avoid paying steep taxes in New York.
Unlike in New York, where punitive tax rates apply to fund its burgeoning public sector and welfare state, Florida’s residents aren’t subjected to any income or estate tax.
Even Blanca Ocasio-Cortez, mother of pro-tax Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, touted Florida’s low-tax system after fleeing the Big Apple.

“I was paying $10,000 a year in real estate taxes up north. I’m paying $600 a year in Florida. It’s stress-free down here.” — Blanca Ocasio-Cortez
“I was paying $10,000 a year in real estate taxes up north. I’m paying $600 a year in Florida. It’s stress-free down here,” she told the Daily Mail from her home in Eustis.
Yet New York's get-tough approach toward its former residents may pose some dangers in the long-term. While recouping unpaid money works for the state’s treasury in the short-term, such practices create a hostile environment for the wealthy that threatens to accelerate their exodus.
And with the top 1 percent paying nearly half of the income taxes in the state, New York can’t afford any more departures.
“Even if a small number of taxpayers leave, it has a dramatic effect on this tax space,” Cuomo said last month.

Lukas Mikelionis is a reporter for FoxNews.com. Follow him on Twitter @LukasMikelionis.