Sunday, June 13, 2010

Do they still hang ya for treason?

I ran into a discussion board over that question. Although it was referring to Great Britain I thought that we might start the same discussion over here. Before I get away from the British question I have a thought or two concerning their laws. Supposedly they passed some Act back in 1998 that did away with hanging as a punishment for treason...although the citizenry was not too pleased. One wonders that the powers to be at the time of it's passage were concerned about their own future knowingly they would be committing treason in the future when they joined the New World Order. Here I speak of Gordon Brown the current Prime Minister for it was he who said, "The New World Order is emerging." following the G20 Summit. ...and he was so proud of the fact! Well the facts are that we have similar people right here in the United States of America that are willing to commit treason and sell out this country to a New World Order or even a Islamic order and one of them lives in the White House. There's a punishment for treason...there's a suggestion below (see video). ~ Norman E. Hooben

DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office

By JB Williams
Members from all three branches of the Federal government already know that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible for the office of President. National leaders, to include members of the US Supreme Court, already know that Barack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States of America, and therefore, is ineligible for the office he currently holds. (See JB’s new article on The Bottom Line on Natural Born Citizen)
What they don’t know is how long it will take for most Americans to figure it out, or what to do about it.
The diversionary search for an authentic birth certificate is ongoing and Obama has now spent in excess of $2 million in legal fees to keep that search alive.
Eric Holder’s Department of Justice continues to deploy taxpayer funded attorneys around the country to file dismissals on behalf of Obama, denying all American citizens access to the courts as a peaceful remedy, which only fuels the fire of discontent and the questions about Obama persist.
Michelle Obama states that Kenya is Barack’s “home country.” She knows, after twenty years with Barack. The Ambassador or Kenya has confirmed the same His family friends all know it, and are in fact quite proud of the fact that Americans had no hesitation in electing a “black man from Kenya” as President of the United States.
The US Supreme Court knows what the constitutional condition of “natural born citizen” means. Even the most far left member of that court, Justice Ginsberg, is on record proclaiming that a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens.
Democrat Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi knows that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible for the office of president, which is why she refused to certify the following language when certifying Obama as the DNC candidate for president in 2008.
This is the normal language for certification of nomination for president and vice president, filed by the DNC only in the state of Hawaii…
This is the language filed by the DNC in the other 49 states, however…
Note that the language which certifies that Barack Hussein Obama meets all constitutional qualifications is missing in the DNC documents filed in 49 of the 50 states. The certification of constitutional qualification for the office of president was filed only in Hawaii. That text is missing in the DNC certification filings for all other states.
Whereas the RNC filed the exact same certification document, including the constitutional text for John McCain in all 50 states, Obama was technically certified in only one state, Hawaii. A mere inconvenient technicality, I’m sure…
The US Congress knows that Barack Hussein Obama is not constitutionally qualified for the office he holds. Although the congress passed a resolution proclaiming Senator John McCain a “natural born citizen” as the son of two US citizens, no such congressional resolution exists for Barack Hussein Obama.
The press knows that Obama is not a “natural born citizen,” having written on several occasions about the “Kenyan born” senator from Chicago. A number of citizens have already been arrested and jailed for asking these questions.
Over four-hundred law suits have been filed across the country asking the courts to force Obama to become the “transparent president” he promised to be, and all four-hundred are being dismissed before discovery, all on the basis that “no citizen has proper legal standing” to ask who and what their president really is…
Over a half-million citizens have now signed a petition demanding to see Obama’s birth records.
Numerous members of the US Military have refused deployment orders from Obama, on the basis that he refuses to evidence his constitutional qualifications to issue such orders. In most cases, the soldiers have simply been reassigned, so as to avoid any disciplinary action that could end in “defense discovery” which might finally force Obama to open up his files once and for all.
Now an eighteen year veteran flight surgeon and active Lt. Colonel faces court martial as he makes his demands for proof that Obama is constitutionally eligible to issue orders as Commander-in-Chief.

Obama’s entire domestic, foreign and national defense agenda has proven to be wholly anti-American

Obama’s entire domestic, foreign and national defense agenda has proven to be wholly anti-American on every possible level. Still, the answers concerning who and what Barack Hussein Obama Jr. really is remain elusive in the face of unprecedented efforts to ask the right questions.
No matter who asks, how they ask or where they ask, not one single individual in Washington DC or even state government seems willing to weigh in on the most important issue of our era. Who and what is the man sitting in the people’s White House?
How in the hell did we get an overtly anti-American resident of the people’s White House without so much as a simple birth certificate to prove who this person really is?
And why won’t a single elected representative of the people engage in the effort to force an answer to this question?
The answers to these and many more questions are likely very simple and equally chilling…

The Speaker of the House does not refuse to certify her candidate as “constitutionally qualified” in forty-nine of fifty states by accident

Nobody spends $2 million in legal fees to hide an authentic birth certificate. The Speaker of the House does not refuse to certify her candidate as “constitutionally qualified” in forty-nine of fifty states by accident. A press that knew he was the “first Kenyan born senator” didn’t forget that he was Kenyan born when he decided to run for president.
Most importantly, the people DO have a right (read - proper standing) to ask who and what their president really is, in any court, any time. And soldiers are court-martialed for refusing orders, unless those orders were issued by an illegitimate Commander-in-Chief.
DC knows what most Americans have yet to figure out…
Obama is NOT a natural born citizen no matter where he might have been born. Obama’s birth father was at no time an American citizen and on this basis alone, Obama cannot be a constitutionally qualified resident of the White House.
They know something else that the American people have yet to figure out…
The US Constitution no longer stands as the governing law of this land. Obama’s many unconstitutional policies, Czars, executive orders and statements provide the proof, and the fact that nobody in DC cares whether or not Obama is constitutionally qualified to be president of the United States should send a shiver down the spine of every red blooded American citizen, no matter their partisan agendas.
The people willing to ask the tough questions are deemed crackpots and conspiracy theorists, racists or bigots. But those tough questions should be obvious questions to all Americans and every president should have to answer those questions, no matter race, creed, color or party affiliation.
I fear that those questions will only be answered at the tip of pitch forks and torches one day. Sooner or later, the people will run out of patience with a system built to exclude them. When that day comes, I fear what methods will be employed and whether or not there will be a country left to save by then.
But sooner or later, one way or another, Obama will have to answer those questions. One day, the world will know who and what this man is and there will be a day of reckoning like no other in American history.
The longer it takes for that day to arrive, the more dangerous the situation will become. A man not even qualified to hold the office is using that office to destroy the greatest nation on earth. How much patience can the people be expected to display?
Obama is not eligible for the office he currently holds and everyone in a position to know - already know.
What they don’t know is how much longer they can keep it all a secret, or what will happen next.

" ...which manner of execution is given to every person who commits treason. "
I'm certain the American people will decide which manner...
This suggestion may not be good enough for Obama...but it's worth considering!


TellerIP said...

Saying that Kenya is Obama's home country does not mean that it is the place where he was born. Presidents Kennedy and Reagan referred to Ireland as their home country.

Obama was born in Hawaii, as the official birth certificate of Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii. Obama's Kenyan grandmother never said that he was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii.

Storm'n Norm'n said...

...and a person named TellerIP won't give up. Get a life! Obama lies! so get used to it! ...and everyone that supports him lies! Are you a supporter? Then you know what to deduce from that! If the birth cerificate was authentic then there would be no problem...but Obama seems to have loads of cash trying to cover up the problem. Instead of making excuses for the liar why not look at all the evidence and the reputations of those you consider 'officials' ...I don't know about the grandmother but I do know that the aunt that died said she was in attendance at his birth in Kenya.

TellerIP said...

Neither the grandmother, nor the aunt, nor any relative, nor anyone else has ever said that he or she was there when Obama was born. In particular, his step-grandmother, Sarah Obama, said that he was born in Hawaii. It is a made up story that she said that he was born in Kenya. She didn't. She said:

(Here is my transcription of what is happening after 5.11 on the tape (5 min and 11 seconds roughly))

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

[Big discussion. Questions. Male voices only]

OGOMBE (The translator, and a cousin): No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born. (6:13 on tape)

[At this point Ogombe asks a question to the grandmother and you can hear her voice. I think it says Hawaii; you may say that it is hard to hear. But you can hear something in a woman’s voice.]

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

Note that Ogombe did not know before he asked her where Obama was born. He asks the question, she replies. He then says clearly Hawaii and repeats it.

Ogombe then repeats that she was in Kenya when he was born and that he (Obama) was in Hawaii.

This confirms the official birth certificate of Hawaii and the officials who confirmed the facts on it, and there is even a witness who recalls being told of his birth in Hawaii. And the National Review had this to say about the Kenya myth: "The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”

Storm'n Norm'n said...

TellerIP continues to believe the mis-information put out by the Obama goon squads...
Maybe TellerIP has some information on the death Lt Harris...I put my money on the Obama goon squads...

Mysterious Murder in DC may be linked to Obama's Passport cover-ups

In 1982, then "Barry" Obama, visited Pakistan on what he described in his book, "Dreams from my Father," as a spiritual journey. He reportedly stayed in the country for one month, but gave no further details of his activities there.

At the time, travel to Pakistan by United States citizens was severely restricted. Obama got around the ban, by using his Indonesian passport, obtained by his dual citizenship status, which he kept from childhood.

Last year, the Washington Times reported on a mysterious murder in the District:

A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday.

Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.

Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car.

City police said they do not know whether his death was a direct result of his cooperation with federal investigators.

"We don't have any information right now that connects his murder to that case," Cmdr. Anzallo said.
Now, on the year anniversary of his murder, the case still remains "unsolved."

Some on the Right believe there may have been an Obama connection.

From Political Vel Craft blog April 19, 2009:

Another day, another creepy murder related in some way to Barack Obama. There is something about this guy that leads to unusual murders wherever his name arises.

The most recent unusual death involves the fatal shooting of a key witness in the passport file fraud investigation. If you recall, during the campaign it was discovered that Obama, Hillary and McCain’s passport files had been breached.

There has been some speculation that Hillary’s and McCain’s files were violated as a cover-up for the real focus of the breach [early on in the '08 Presidential campaign], which was Obama’s passport file. Some people wonder what was removed from his file and if it was part of an effort to make sure no one found out about Obama’s shady past. Like, when did he actually first get a US passport? What is on that passport? Like maybe his real name? His place of birth? His parentage? (If you think I exaggerate the importance of the birth certificate and other biological information, it has just been reported that Obama’s lawyer, Robert Bauer, was paid $688,000 this year to make sure no one sees any of it).
Questions are also arising as to why this key witness was let loose to travel around DC without any federal protection

Storm'n Norm'n said...

Go here:

TellerIP said...

Re; ‘the breach [early on in the '08 Presidential campaign], which was Obama’s passport file. Some people wonder what was removed from his file and if it was part of an effort to make sure no one found out about Obama’s shady past. ‘

Answer: The State Department, which by the way was under Secretary of State Rice at the time, never said that anything was changed in the file or that anything was removed from the file, only that the file had been accessed, seen. The guy saw it, but he did not change it. Probably he could not change it because it was a computer file, not the originals.

You asked: “Like, when did he actually first get a US passport?”

Answer: That is easy to answer. He got his first passport when he left Hawaii to go to Indonesia with his mother, when he was about five, so therefore in 1966 or 1967. What else but a US passport could he have traveled on? he clearly says in his first book: “The time was spent applying for passports.’ Let me stress passport(S) plural. His mother did not have a passport either. That means that she could not have gone to Kenya in 1961.

You asked; ‘What is on that passport? Like maybe his real name? His place of birth? His parentage? “

Answer: Of course, all of those things, and they are the same names dates and places as on his published official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth of Hawaii.

You said: “was paid $688,000 this year to make sure no one sees any of it.’

Answer: Baloney. Total baloney. We have already seen the official birth certificate of Hawaii. There was never a lawsuit against Obama just for his birth certificate or just for records. The vast majority of lawsuits tried to stop the election, stop the Electoral College from voting, etc. In our legal system you have to defend lawsuits against you, no matter how stupid they are.

You also said: “Questions are also arising as to why this key witness was let loose to travel around DC without any federal protection.’

Answer: You are implying that he was shot fairly recently and that the Justice Department under Obama was responsible for not providing the protection. In fact, he was found shot on April 18 or April 19, 2008, and the Justice Department at the time was under the Bush Administration ( The reason that he did not receive protection should be asked of them. The Attorney General at the time was Michael Mukasey.

I’ll bet you will ask; ‘then why doesn’t he show his passport?” Because no president ever has and because the allegations that he had an Indonesian passport are silly since Indonesia says that he never had an Indonesian passport. What did Obama use to get that US passport? The original birth certificate from Hawaii. Why doesn’t he show it now? Because he no longer has it. Like many people do, he lost it. That is why he asked Hawaii for his birth certificate in 2007, and Hawaii sent him the new official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth, which is what it sends to everyone.

Oh, and Obama was not registered as a foreign student at Occidental, and he did attend Columbia, and people did remember him from Columbia, and his Kenyan grandmother never said that he was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii.

TellerIP said...

You said: “At the time, travel to Pakistan by United States citizens was severely restricted. “

Answer: Who told you that? It wasn’t. It was NOT restricted. Pakistan was relatively peaceful at the time, and it welcomed US tourists. Newspapers ran articles about “scenic Lahore.” Pakistan was NOT on any “no travel list” of the US government, so US tourists could go using a US passport. They received free 30-day visas on arrival at Pakistan’s airports.

Obama had a US passport from the time that he left Hawaii to go to Indonesia. He NEVER had an Indonesian passport because he was never an Indonesian citizen, as the Indonesian Embassy will tell you (202) 775-5200, and ask for the press officer.)

You said: “using his Indonesian passport.”

Answer: He never had an Indonesian passport. He used his US passport.

You said: “Some on the Right believe there may have been an Obama connection.”

Answer: And some believe that the Earth is flat, that there are bodies of space aliens stored by the Federal government in Rosewell, NM, and that Bush participated in the plot to bring down the Twin Towers on 911. This is all simply speculation.

Storm'n Norm'n said...

TellerIP...everything you've just said is a bunch of baloney!
Obama never attended Columbia. The one paper that surfaced (I have a copy somewhere in my archives) was and after the fact cover-up scheme.

You seem to be going far out of the way to make excuses for this guy. The next thing you're probably going to say is he's not a Communist/Marxist anti-Christian Muslim loving anti-American... you probably don't believe there's such a guy as Saul Alinsky and Obama couldn't possibly show any Alinsky traits in both words and action...all this would put you in cahoots with the same Obama cronies...lie, lie, lie and lie some more then maybe folks will start believing the lies. Get a life! Prefarably outside the country. Americans cherish their freedoms as Obama hates patriotism (it's in his actions and every word!) Too bad some people are blinded by their own deep seated hate...this is reflected in your excuses! Obama is leading us into war and you are aiding and abetting this tyrant.

As I said way back when:

"As it was in the beginning and now as it should be, I will live, I will fight, I will die, for God and that order and no one will stand in my way. Amen."

History has a way of dealing with dictators and Obama is a dictator so lets see how history evolves. I just hope I'm around to see his seventy chances grow slim, so I hope and pray it's soon. For not only my grandchildren, but for America!

TellerIP said...

You said:

"TellerIP...everything you've just said is a bunch of baloney!
Obama never attended Columbia. The one paper that surfaced (I have a copy somewhere in my archives) was and after the fact cover-up scheme."

What total crap.

This is the article you are referring to: (

And there is:

And the recollections of Michael Baron, who was Obama’s Senior Thesis advisor

One person who did remember Mr. Obama was Michael L. Baron, who taught a senior seminar on international politics and American policy. Mr. Baron, now president of an electronics company in Florida, said he was Mr. Obama’s adviser on the senior thesis for that course. Mr. Baron, who later wrote Mr. Obama a recommendation for Harvard Law School, gave him an A in the course.

and: Michael J. Wolf, who took the seminar with him and went on to become president of MTV Networks, said: “He was very smart. He had a broad sense of international politics and international relations. It was a class with a lot of debate. He was a very, very active participant. I think he was truly distinctive from the other people in that class. He stood out.”

And "I was Barack Obama ’83’s roommate at Columbia College in fall 1981. I met him in 1979, when we were freshmen at Occidental College (Oxy) in Los Angeles and our dorm rooms were directly opposite each other." (

How do you think he got into Harvard Law School without attending Columbia and getting good grades?

Re: Wars and dictators. I'd say the same about George Bush. Obama is a moderate Democrat. In some ways more conservative than Clinton (who recommended a single-payer health care system).

I notice you do not discuss your allegation, now disproven, that Pakistan was on a "no travel list" or barred US citizens from visiting. Or that the passport file was changed. Or that Obama was an Indonesian citizen.

And you do not discuss your original claim that Obama has hidden his birth certificate and spent millions in legal fees hiding it. (He actually posted the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the officials in Hawaii confirmed the facts on it.)

Rightwing Cowboy said...

A little late here since I've been out of town. However, if TellerIP is depending on wiki for evidence he/she/it is a fool. I think I'll go with Obama's Kenyan grandmother who told Jerome Corsi that she was present when he was born.