Friday, April 30, 2010

Obama "...cannot be trusted " - Who else do you think we're talking about?

"The bottom line is that so far absolutely no positive proof has been provided that establishes that Barack Obama was born on American soil."


Source: Examiner.com

New investigation into Obama background spells trouble ahead

A brand new, in-depth investigation into the background of Barack Obama may spell big trouble ahead regarding the issue of Presidential eligibility.
The investigation was conducted by Northeast Intelligence Network--a team of experienced, professional private investigators whose services have been utilized by Fortune-500 companies.  The director, Douglas J. Hagmann, is a 23-year veteran in high-level investigations and is a member of the International Counter-Terrorism Officers Association.
Hagmann's investigation into the background and Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama to serve as President of the United States is extensive and thorough.  His conclusions are stunning.
(AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall).
For example, neither of Obama's parents were citizens of the United States at the time of his birth.  Therefore, Obama would have to have been born on U.S. soil in order to qualify as a 'natural born citizen' according to the qualifications specified in the Constitution.
But Hagmann's investigation reveals that, contrary to the notion of those who point to a short-form birth certificate in Hawaii, and 2 birth announcements in Hawaiian newspapers, neither of these factors proves anything at all about Obama's status or citizenship:
the Certification of Live Birth is consistently cited by individuals, the media and others to prove the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein OBAMA.  Nonetheless, even an authenticated and genuine Certification of Live Birth is legally insufficient for the purpose of proving eligibility, as it merely represents that OBAMA’s birth record is on file in the state of Hawaii. It falls short of providing the information necessary to determine constitutional eligibility in at least two areas: it does not offer any information regarding who supplied the information, nor does it confirm the authenticity of the information provided. Again, it merely indicates that the information is “on file.”
In other words, the 'certification of live birth' as touted by Obama apologists and the mainstream media as 'proof' Obama meets the eligibility requirements of the Constitution actually proves nothing.
In addition, Hagmann disputes the notion that birth announcements in local Hawaiian newspapers provide proof:
Many who argue that Barack Hussein OBAMA II was born in Hawaii not only point to the COLB as direct evidence of eligibility, but they also point to two separate birth announcements that appear in the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser and the Star-Bulletin in 1961. Those doing so either fail to understand the legal definition of a natural born citizen as it applies to the eligibility factor, or are guilty of intentionally misdirecting the core issue. A birth announcement is simply that – a public announcement that a baby was born. The birth announcements do not provide any information about the child’s citizenship, cannot be authenticated, and hold no weight of evidence to support either side of the eligibility argument.
However, the key information in Hagmann's report that casts doubts upon Obama's eligibility is the fact that the very organizations that published the short-form certificate of live birth and the 2 birth announcements in newspapers have direct connections with Barack Obama.
The DailyKos is the primary suspect and the first entity to publish 'proof' of a birth certificate.  The DailyKos is an ultra-Leftwing hate-group that not only is 'in the tank' for Obama but smears and seeks to destroy those who oppose extremist, Leftwing initiatives in politics. 
'Fight the Smears,' which also pointed to these 2 erroneous pieces of 'evidence,' is owned by 'Organizing for America,' which was originally named 'Obama for America.'   This speaks for itself.
And finally, there is the much-hallowed 'Factcheck.org'--supposedly an independent, non-partisan clearinghouse that separates truth from fiction in the media and on the Internet.  Hagmann's investigation reveals that Factcheck is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, which receives its primary funding from the Annenberg Foundation.
Barack Obama was a founding member, chairman, and past President of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was also funded by the Annenberg Foundation.  Thus, the supposed 'neutrality' of Factcheck.org can safely be called into question.
The bottom line is that so far absolutely no positive proof has been provided that establishes that Barack Obama was born on American soil.
Why is this important?  An individual who would spend millions of dollars hiding his background and pertinent documents from the public, and who would make false statements about about his history, cannot be trusted to tell the American people the truth about what his policy initiatives are intended to do regarding the 'fundamental change' of America.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

You said: "Nonetheless, even an authenticated and genuine Certification of Live Birth is legally insufficient for the purpose of proving eligibility, as it merely represents that OBAMA’s birth record is on file in the state of Hawaii."

The facts on the document were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii. They said that the original birth certificate shows that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii does not allow a birth document of any kind to be issued that says on it "born in Hawaii' unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii. Obama's Certification of Live Birth, the official birth certificate of Hawaii and the only one that Hawaii issues, says on it that he was born in Hawaii, and that fact was confirmed by the officials.

You said: "It does not offer any information regarding who supplied the information, nor does it confirm the authenticity of the information provided.'

It does what every birth certificate does, it shows that there are documents on file that demonstrate that the child was born at a certain time and a certain place to certain people, all of which are on the short-form birth certificate. The officials have determined that those facts are accurate.

Storm'n Norm'n said...

Looks as though TellerIP is back...

Mr or Mrs Anonymous is digging at straws again...

The simple facts are:

Obama was not born in the USA and there has NEVER been any substantial proof to say otherwise.

Good bye TellerIP and Anonymous and don't bother coming back... I don't have any more time to deal with crackpots.

Anonymous said...

You said: "Hagmann disputes the notion that birth announcements in local Hawaiian newspapers provide proof."

No, they simply tend to confirm the official birth certificate and the confirmations of the officials. In addition, they prove the date and that the document was not a delayed birth certificate or a certificate of Hawaiian birth, which required substantial delays.

In addition, you do not mention that there was actually a witness who recalls being told of Obama's birth in Hawaii in 1961 (because she wrote to her father, whose first name was Stanley about the birth to a woman named Stanley http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2170432/posts). And Obama's Kenyan grandmother never said that he was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii.

Anonymous said...

You said: "Obama was not born in the USA and there has NEVER been any substantial proof to say otherwise."


"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

And the Wall Street Journal commented;

""I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

Chicago Ray said...

I'm posting the Hagman story 2 times and I happen to believe he and Laura Mansfield to be some of the most accurate and loyal security-wise Americans on earth.

Furthermore, these men like he and Joseph Farah and even myself to a degree would make a lot more money not pursuing this than they would if they didn't ..and that alone speaks volumes

Obama's in this for a obvious laundry list of reasons, none if which is "love of country".

Linkbacks on the way stormin'

Storm'n Norm'n said...

"Obama was not born in the USA and there has NEVER been any substantial proof to say otherwise."

But now we have further evidence that he was not born in the United States with this statement:

""I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

The above statement is not a reliable source. All it does is place the so-called Dr. Chiyome Fukino in a position to cover-up the facts...a conspiracy if you will. Since when does an entire country place their full faith and allegiance to some unknown entity. Dr Fukino should be hung with all the traitors for failure to inform the American people their rightful place in history and mocking our Constitution...no doctor has the right to withold evidence affecting the outcome of an entire nation's voting choice.

Anonymous said...

YOu said: "Since when does an entire country place their full faith and allegiance to some unknown entity."

Obama's original birth certificate was seen by at least three people: Fukino, the director of vital records and the clerk. They had no reason to lie, and if they had lied and were found out they would face severe penalties. So the original document in the files must say quiet clearly that Obama was born in Hawaii.

There is also a witness who recalls being told of Obama being born in Hawaii in 1961 by a doctor she knew and who wrote home about the unusual event of a child being born to a woman named Stanley to her father, also named Stanley (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2170432/posts). There is also the fact that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that Obama was born in Hawaii. There is also the fact that Obama's mother did not have a passport in 1961.

Finally, no previous president has even shown a birth certificate. We simply took their words that they were born in the USA. Where is the proof that JFK was not born overseas? Or Gerald Ford?

Storm'n Norm'n said...

More freakin' excuses from brainless Anonymous...It's not just me, it's the country that wants to know and not just the word of a few unknown yokels. As far as other presidents go it was obvious throughout the land that they were citizens...they grew up, here, went to church here, went to school here, and all the things normal citizens do...Obama did none of this...not even his school records are available except that from Indonesia that says he's of the Islamist belief. Get a life and don't bother with your lame brain excuses...you obviously are part of the conspiracy...